Knee -ding them, wanting them

I saw Dr Doug Elenz at Austin Sports Medicine his afternoon about my knee. I was referred to Elenz by my family Doctor, and at the time I didn't know he was the guy that fixed Armstrongs Shoulder. Any way, I can't work out if this was the result I wanted or not.

Elenz looked at the x-rays and said "a picture is worth a thousand words". He went on to explain what was going on with the knee, he said it was severly arthritic and was "amazed" that I could do what I do and that he "admired" me for it. He said really the only option was knee replacement and there were no tune-ups that were viable. He doesn't do replacements but would put me in touch with someone who did. We went on to discuss my leg in general, and Elenz suggested/offered cortisone injections before events to help manage pain but he said that wasn't a solution and couldn't be used longterm.

He also observed that even knee replacement wouldn't be simple due to the scaring on and around the knee. He also said he saw little point in resetting the leg, which was re-assuring, as the guy in NY who I saw in 2006 was fixated about fixing the leg.

Pretty much I knew all this, and the people I'd talked/joked with about this, I said that what I wanted was someone who'd give me cortisone injections. I guess I was being realistic, what I was hoping for was some minor miracle that Elenz could do something that wouldn't stop me training etc. Oh well.

What was interesting is Elenz had old-fashioned x-rays and didn't mention the CPPD, I didn't ask. Up in NY when I last saw a consultant in 2006, he used a scanner and high-def screen to review them on. You could see inside the knees much more clearly. I'm sure Elenz is right, but it's an interesting comparison.

So, shots it is. I guess for $203 it was not the win I'd expect but comforting to get a 2nd opinion. Oh well.

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My Momma got cocks comb injections in her knees over the last year. It's made a massive diff. She can move much easier & instead of her usual complaints.. she remarks regularly how much better her knees feel.

Other than that you could take the natural approach. My Vet friends give arthritic dogs Chondroitin/Glucosamine.

I've literally seen a dog that couldn't walk up the front steps be able to bound up a stairway within a couple of weeks on C/G. It's amazing stuff. I've recently started walk/running again & I got a liquid version of C/G by "Now" brand that works like a charm on for all my sore spots.
oh.. yes, one more point.

All my clients who've received Cortisone Injections have developed long term calcium deficiency around the injection point.

I would suggest a liquid calcium/magnesium that absorbs & helps you rebuild bone & tissue quickly before going with the Cortisone. My fave brand is "Bluebonnet Brand" Liquid Calcium/Magnesium Sulfate. Blueberry Cream flavored. *mmmm*
Thanks, I don't want to see dismissive and it might be useful to talk some of this through, if we do get a chance to meet during eyores birthday w/e. I've tried the C/G stuff in both tablet and liquid form over a period of 2-years and there was no noticeable difference and last year tried the liquid Now version.

I'm also somewhat concerned about C/G since much of it is actually reduced from battery raised chicken bones, hence the rise in the past few years has gone from zero to somewhat massively available.

I was taking a microlactin supplement for a couple of years and that did seem to make a difference. I took it via a drink powder call RX98 which disappeared from the market. I just serached though and see there are now lots of microlactin tablets, which there were not before. Maybe I should try those....

I've never heard of cocks comb and google searches didn't turn up anything obvious. The real problem isn't stiffness, despite the arthritus diagnosis. It's the pain when running any distance, and the fluid build-up as a result of the pain. I can resolve both these by taking large amounts of NSAIDs while running. 2x 200mg every 30-mins or so...

I have though seem a general improvement in general joint pain, or rather lack of it, since stopping using artificial sweetners from your earlier LJ post. I'd never considered the LC/MS option and will consider it. The problem is so many choices, so little time. I'm going to start here and see what happens

I do appreciate your thoughtful replies though, thanks *doffs tiffer*
Excellent course of action since now's not the ideal time to have surgery & recovery.

Here's a link to the Rooster Comb Injections I was talkin' about. I'm sure the Dr.s don't call it that. *LOL* Hyalgan Injections

And hey.. even if it can get you through 4 months that would be awesome.
knee injections from coxcomb
I have been taking "coxcomb" injections in both of my knees over the past 6 weeks for osteoartheritis. They seem to be working since I'm sleeping better and walking with less pain, although the pain has not completely disappeared and I'm told won't. The coxcomb adds a lubricant to the joints and supposedly last from 6 months to a year. I'm told some people have favorable responses from the injections, but not all. Good luck with whatever you do.